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THE GUARDIAN šŸ”µ Farage says deal with Tories ā€˜as they are’ would cost Reform UK votes, as he denies election pact – UK politics live

Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, has said the story is ā€œfalseā€. But a close reading of his ā€œdenialā€ suggests that his thinking on this topic is rather more nuanced than that word implies.

In their story, Anna Gross and Julie Steinberg say that Farage has told donors that he expects some sort of pact between the two main rightwing parties before the election. They say:

One donor said Farage told them he expected to do a deal with the Tories, whether it be a merger or an agreement on co-operation between the two parties, to ease Reform’s route to election victory.

The person added that the Reform leader said such a deal could only be done on his terms, in part because Farage felt betrayed after the pact he made with the Tories at the 2019 election.

Another associate who met with Farage in recent months said the Reform leader described a pact or merger as inevitable but added it might take some time.

The person added that Farage said Reform held more power so any agreement would be made on his rightwing populist party’s terms.

Responding to the story in a post on X, Farage said:

A false story in the FT tonight claims Reform would do a deal with the Tories.

After 14 years of dishonesty & lies they should never be forgiven. The idea I’d work with them is ludicrous.

They betrayed my trust in 2019 & we will ensure they cease to be a national party in May.

The reference to May is important. Farage is referring to the Scottish parliament and Senedd elections. In Wales the polls suggest that Reform UK is on course to be the biggest party, and the Tories are polling at a level where they may struggle to win more than a handful for seats. In Scotland the SNP is comfortably in the lead, but here too Reform UK seems on course to easily outperform Kemi Badenoch’s party.

Farage also gave a quote to the FT before it ran its story and, although it largely echoed its tweet, it included an important qualifier (highlighted in bold). He told the paper:

After next May, the Conservatives will no longer be a national party.

I would never do a deal with a party that I don’t trust. No deals, just a reverse takeover. A deal with them as they are would cost us votes.

So it may be true that Farage has no intention of doing any sort of deal with Badenoch’s Conservative party. But it also seems to be the case that Farage does not think that sort of party survive until 2029, and that he is contemplating how he cooperates with some Tory rump faction under a different leadership. Many commentators think, if that is the situation, there will be some sort of electoral deal.

Keir Starmer may choose to bring this up at PMQs. Here is the agenda for the day.

Noon: Keir Starmer faces Kemi Badenoch at PMQs.

2.15pm: Helen Miller, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, and Ruth Curtice, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation, give evidence to the Commons Treasury committee about the budget.

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another resident doctors strike in England before Christmas.

As PA Media reports, resident doctors will strike for five days from 7am on 17 December until 7am on 22 December as they continue their fight with the government over training and pay. It follows similar strike action by resident doctors, formerly called junior doctors, between November 14 and November 19, and other previous strikes.

On Sky News this morning, asked if he had ā€œhad itā€ with doctors’ unions, Streeting replied:

With the BMA, certainly.

I mean, whether it’s the rhetoric and the behaviour of the BMA around general practice, whether it is yet another round of unnecessary strike action being proposed by resident doctors who’ve had a 28.9% pay rise, we’ve seen an outbreak in the British Medical Association of juvenile delinquency, and it is irresponsible, because we know that the NHS is under real pressure …

Since we came to office, there are real signs of green shoots of recovery, whether that’s on the waiting list, whether that’s on patient satisfaction with general practice, whether that’s the investment we’re putting into urgent emergency care – we could be leaning into this together.

Instead, the BMA is not only holding back the NHS’s recovery and inflicting damage on patients, it’s also self-defeating for their members who are having to work in these conditions.

9.33am), he seems to have chosen his words carefully.

Asked about the story on Times Radio, Jenrick said:

I can’t speculate on what Nigel might have said at a boozy lunch in the City to his mates. All I can say is that my leader Kemi Badenoch said there won’t be a deal. Nigel Farage has said there won’t be a deal so there won’t be a deal.

Asked how he felt personally about the prospect of a deal, Jenrick replied:

There won’t be a deal. These are two distinct political parties and their respective leaders have said no deal. So it’s as simple as that.

That was his second reference to Kemi Badenoch being opposed to a deal. There are some people in the Conservative party who believe that, by the time of the next election, a different leader will be making the decision – although since party conference, where Badenoch’s keynote speech was widely praised, and in the light of her much-improved PMQs performance, there is a lot less talk about that then there was in the summer.

Earlier this year Sky News revealed that Jenrick told a Tory dinner in private that, while he would like Reform UK support to collapse, if they were still doing well at the time of the next election ā€œone way or anotherā€ the Tories would have to unite with them to defeat Labour.

Farage has also said similar things in the past. Last year he told Nick Robinson’s Political Thinking podcast:

I just don’t see long term how people like myself and Richard Tice don’t finish up at the same political party as a Jacob Rees-Mogg or a Suella Braverman … There is going to be – this has been talked about, by the way for decades – but there is going to be a realignment of the centre right of British politics.

9.33am) shows that Nigel Farage is willing to be propped up by the Conservative party. A Labour spokesperson said:

Nigel Farage isn’t even hiding it anymore – he’s happy for failed Tories to prop up his party, whether they choose to join Reform or not.

The Conservatives broke public services and hammered family finances. They and Reform would inflict Tory austerity on Britain all over again, meaning savage cuts to local schools and hospitals.

This shady backroom plot will send a shiver down the spine of people up and down the country, and shows you simply can’t trust Nigel Farage.

Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, has said the story is ā€œfalseā€. But a close reading of his ā€œdenialā€ suggests that his thinking on this topic is rather more nuanced than that word implies.

In their story, Anna Gross and Julie Steinberg say that Farage has told donors that he expects some sort of pact between the two main rightwing parties before the election. They say:

One donor said Farage told them he expected to do a deal with the Tories, whether it be a merger or an agreement on co-operation between the two parties, to ease Reform’s route to election victory.

The person added that the Reform leader said such a deal could only be done on his terms, in part because Farage felt betrayed after the pact he made with the Tories at the 2019 election.

Another associate who met with Farage in recent months said the Reform leader described a pact or merger as inevitable but added it might take some time.

The person added that Farage said Reform held more power so any agreement would be made on his rightwing populist party’s terms.

Responding to the story in a post on X, Farage said:

A false story in the FT tonight claims Reform would do a deal with the Tories.

After 14 years of dishonesty & lies they should never be forgiven. The idea I’d work with them is ludicrous.

They betrayed my trust in 2019 & we will ensure they cease to be a national party in May.

The reference to May is important. Farage is referring to the Scottish parliament and Senedd elections. In Wales the polls suggest that Reform UK is on course to be the biggest party, and the Tories are polling at a level where they may struggle to win more than a handful for seats. In Scotland the SNP is comfortably in the lead, but here too Reform UK seems on course to easily outperform Kemi Badenoch’s party.

Farage also gave a quote to the FT before it ran its story and, although it largely echoed its tweet, it included an important qualifier (highlighted in bold). He told the paper:

After next May, the Conservatives will no longer be a national party.

I would never do a deal with a party that I don’t trust. No deals, just a reverse takeover. A deal with them as they are would cost us votes.

So it may be true that Farage has no intention of doing any sort of deal with Badenoch’s Conservative party. But it also seems to be the case that Farage does not think that sort of party survive until 2029, and that he is contemplating how he cooperates with some Tory rump faction under a different leadership. Many commentators think, if that is the situation, there will be some sort of electoral deal.

Keir Starmer may choose to bring this up at PMQs. Here is the agenda for the day.

Noon: Keir Starmer faces Kemi Badenoch at PMQs.

2.15pm: Helen Miller, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, and Ruth Curtice, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation, give evidence to the Commons Treasury committee about the budget.

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If you want to flag something up urgently, it is best to use social media. You can reach me on Bluesky at @andrewsparrowgdn.bsky.social. The Guardian has given up posting from its official accounts on X, but individual Guardian journalists are there, I still have my account, and if you message me there at @AndrewSparrow, I will see it and respond if necessary.

I find it very helpful when readers point out mistakes, even minor typos. No error is too small to correct. And I find your questions very interesting too. I can’t promise to reply to them all, but I will try to reply to as many as I can, either BTL or sometimes in the blog.

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